Is this cheese?

User control bringing a FS into the box pre snap every play? i mean yes the a safety does play in the box occasionally in the nfl but almost always its the ss and never every play. Also user control moving defenders around, switching and moving multiple guys per play alot of time.

Is this cheese putting a fast HB Mccoy 93 at FB and running slant routes to the outside???
Or putting Mccoy as the 4th WR in 5WR set and running quick slants? When has Mccoy played WR or FB on Sundays????? Dude manually moved Williams on the line and I didnt even trip. But when u lose, it easy to pick out any little thing and call cheese. Especially when u depend on the computer to help u and u dont attempt to make many user plays. You were up 21-7 at halftime theres no way I cheesed u to win. Blame yourself not cheese for losing.

And that FS u claim is "in the box", is a coverage S. I never blitzed him, did I nano you???? Where is the cheese???? I manually played safety to manually defend ur abuse of quick slants across the middle. Thats why u didnt score in the second half.

did you call a run play other than a toss the entire 2nd half? is so it couldnt have be more the one or two, and you threw to the flats way more then me so how does playing mccoy at FB matter? I nominate you for "most ironic xbox live user name of the year".

truly dont have issue with either if what you guys did other than mccoy at FB (outside of shotgun formations)

Antierror wrote:

truly dont have issue with either if what you guys did other than mccoy at FB (outside of shotgun formations)

Thank you, it was out of strong formation or weak to be exact and dude was passsing out of it lol. My DBs was all over that shyt dude couldnt score lol. FB Flats and he has the nerve to complain. Bitterness is a weak trait lay off the bong dude u are not the type of person who can handle it bonger23 lol. Take ur loss straight up dude, I know it hurts to blow a 21-7 lead but its madden ............. it happens.

I thought you were talking about me at first bonger. I usually move my FS closer to the LOS to help with run then back off when its a pass. In my view that is no where close to true cheese. I think that moving multiple defenders around pre snap into a formation that looks nothing to what its supposed to look like, just to create a better pass rush is a little cheese. But if you do it to cover a WR that seems to be uncovered with any zone coverage then its just good skill to realize the dumbass cpu is not doing its job and you gotta do it yourself. In our game idk what the hell was going on, almost everytime i manually used my DE your OL barely tried to block.

Definitely not cheese. If this is supposed to be like a real football it is, coverages change all the time. Look at the way most safeties play in the NFL, Bob Sanders always comes close on plays to stop the run and under cut the short throw.

with all the cheese that goes on i cant believe people take the time to post stupid shit like this. take the loss.

well imo if you do you same thing everytime no matter what that is cheese or non sim. So bringing the same safety into the box and doing the same thing with them every play maybe its not cheese but its certainly not fun.

and you keep talkin about the McCoy at FB to the flats but how many times did I run that? He had what 2 receptions. Weak, the shit i complained about you did over and over and over. Mix it up alittle would ya, seems that every other game i play in these leagues lately the game is running like 6 plays.

Dude you clearly haven't played football in your life, you do what works for you no matter how many times you do that play throughout the game. Bringing a safety and using him in the box or for the pass is called a rover, he is supposed to follow the ball.

dude you clearly dont know what Sim league means or havent read the rules.

Personally I think playing Mccoy (or any crazy fast RB) at FB and bringing safeties up manually is crap. It's very easy to abuse this and both are money. Bringing a safety up helps tremendously against the run and it's very easy to get back in pass coverage, there's no drawback to doing it. I think there should be rules stating which players can play at what position and rules for who you can move on defense. Here's an example taken from the Hardcore Madden league.

K.) Defensive Player Movement.

a.) Defensive Lineman can not be moved manually period. You may move Defensive lineman with the preset shifts.

b.) Defensive Secondary can only be moved horizontally (left and right) manually, you can bring safeties and Corners to the line via the preset shifts, but not manually.

c.) Linebackers can move freely as long as you only control one at a time and do not nano blitz with them.


I think that's the best way to play. Let me know what you guys think of this. It should fix problems like this.

Dirty wrote:

Personally I think playing Mccoy (or any crazy fast RB) at FB and bringing safeties up manually is crap. It's very easy to abuse this and both are money. Bringing a safety up helps tremendously against the run and it's very easy to get back in pass coverage, there's no drawback to doing it. I think there should be rules stating which players can play at what position and rules for who you can move on defense. Here's an example taken from the Hardcore Madden league.

K.) Defensive Player Movement.

a.) Defensive Lineman can not be moved manually period. You may move Defensive lineman with the preset shifts.

b.) Defensive Secondary can only be moved horizontally (left and right) manually, you can bring safeties and Corners to the line via the preset shifts, but not manually.

c.) Linebackers can move freely as long as you only control one at a time and do not nano blitz with them.


I think that's the best way to play. Let me know what you guys think of this. It should fix problems like this.

I'd love to play by these rules, I wouldn't mind playing by these rules but there is no way it can be obeyed because there are too many people where you need to move around a FS or D linemen just to have a chance to stop them. It will never work, especially in this league.

I never move my FS or linemen. It's just the way I play now. Seems like the most fair way to play. The preset movements are more than ample to stop an offense.

I was wondering say a running back was running all over me, had like 200 yards at the half. When the second half starts would I be allowed to bring the safety in the box every play then to stop those big gains he would probably be getting?

i havve been using my fs a little lately if people are running to th outside on me easily, i dont bring the safety up very far presnap, infact i usually back him up a little bit if i dont know which side there running too. Everyones always done it to me and it works alot so i do it now.

dsmpacttsi wrote:

i havve been using my fs a little lately if people are running to th outside on me easily, i dont bring the safety up very far presnap, infact i usually back him up a little bit if i dont know which side there running too. Everyones always done it to me and it works alot so i do it now.

Yea, Meriweather is one of the main reasons to help me stop your run attack.

That's my point, it's extremely useful against the run but doesn't hurt your pass protection at all. I don't think it should be allowed. There are defensive plays and formations that are made to stop the run. That is what should be used, not moving the defense around. Plus the preset defensive movements should be plenty, and it's all SIM. Which is the most important part.

Dirty wrote:

That's my point, it's extremely useful against the run but doesn't hurt your pass protection at all. I don't think it should be allowed. There are defensive plays and formations that are made to stop the run. That is what should be used, not moving the defense around. Plus the preset defensive movements should be plenty, and it's all SIM. Which is the most important part.

In a perfect video game world, this world be true. But in EASports game world. Players dont automatically cover zones and man assignment they should cover. the S helps against the run hardly. Alotta missed takles happens, that the trade off. I cant say what beats it on the pass but its simple when u think about it.

playaction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Either way, I don't think it's SIM and there should be rules against it.

i concur, dirty.